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Posted By: Zak S@john harperIf you go"I, John Harper ate a meatball sub on a bench in Connecticut"And four people go:"Clearly, you ate it in order to taunt the workers who used to work at the submarine factory that recently closed there"Then I am gonna go "WTF guys? Can you explain this? All John said was he was eating a meatball sandwich"And I am not only going to register surprise, I am going to be curious about how anybody could get there.
Posted By: Zak S"Holmes repeated asking her about his sexual advances is jerky because repeatedly asking her this question is jerky because..." ...there is, in your mind, no other likely explanation of why he'd ask those questions despite the fact that there's one sitting right in front of you?
Posted By: Zak S@PeterBBSo my Scenario B seems way less likely than the two egregious horrible atrocities you just outlined because why exactly?
Posted By: John HarperHooray! I thought maybe I was done for in that last round.4. Did we skip over a bunch of questions? This one doesn't follow from the other two. Maybe it's supposed to be question 40, and there was a cut and paste error. I'll answer it anyway."No."(What a silly question, Boss! Hahaha. West Virginia. You have a weird sense of humor that I didn't expect.)
This is just saying this matches Your Experience. Which is just another way of saying you have baggage from games you've seen that you are bringing to this issue. Of course you could accuse me of the same, but I'm not the one saying one scenario is more likely than the other. You are. That's an important difference. If you want to check my baggage, I have never played with anybody who acted like Jackass--but I am not stupid enough to claim that this means that my experience is typical.
Posted By: Zak SYou just added "Not good enough"That is you adding stuffagain.
Gonna pull my girl card. I've had this happen to me in games. And I've played with a variety of genders (and transgenders, and queers, and sexually liberated folk) over the years. The account in Holmes' article is exactly how it happens. Uncomfortable pushing about sexual situations (you're the girl, why don't you just flash them your tits as a distraction? I'm totally seducing your character right now cause that's the only way I'm interested in interacting with a girl at the table. I'm pretty sure our characters have had sex at some point, even though you're saying you're a virgin) come up all the time. Actual accounts from women gamers should kinda be enough to show that yea, this kind of pushing is a thing that happens.I think it would be a different story if she laughed and said, yea, you're probably right, my character's a total slut. She's totally slept with you. So, who's gonna capture that unicorn then? But there was insistent refusal on her part, and then even negotiation in an attempt to save her character from being seduced. Yea, that makes me pretty uncomfortable. That's pushing.
Posted By: Zak SI wrote a whole explanation on the last page about why you'd ask for a percentage without being an ass. If you read it and don't see it as plausible, say that.
Posted By: Zak SWas it not weird at some point?
Posted By: Zak SImplausible how? The only people who responded to that version (which, like yours, requires adding motive) said it was plausible.
Posted By: Zak SYour description includes the judgment that Cicely was forced, coerced or intimidated into her "25%". Would that be fair to assume?
Posted By: Zak SSo that is an interpolation. I am not saying it is wrong, but you are not just "reading what it says" you are adding a judgment. Admit that.